There are a lot of changes happening right now, aren't there?

There are a lot of changes happening right now, aren't there?

So?

What do you say to that?

Strange, isn't it?

Do all the Great Leader's advisors really act in his interests?

So when the Great Leader issues reforms, it is my duty to implement them.

Or do you see it differently, Schwarz?

I, uh, no, absolutely not.

Are some of his advisors perhaps working more for their own good than for his?

Why would you like to know that, Mr. Schwarz?

One must choose a side.

Just because...

Hmmm.

You're smarter than I thought, Mr. Schwarz.

But that doesn't mean that I suddenly like you now.

Have you read the latest news, Mr. Meinhardt?

Of course. In my position, you always have to know what's going on.

Where are you getting at, Schwarz?

Talk straight, man!

So many things that used to be forbidden are suddenly allowed.

I tell you honestly, Schwarz: freedom is a double-edged sword.

People say,they want to decide for themselves whether they eat apples or not.

But woe,they get a stomachache from it!

Then of course, it's the ministry's fault. Because it allowed apples.

People say,they want to decide for themselves. But the responsibility for their action, that should bear the ministry in the end. Period.

So you and me. Do you think that's right?

Yes, that's right.

No, that's wrong.

You are right about that, Schwarz.

But you do ask yourself questions sometimes. For example:

If so, how do you evaluate the reforms?

Do all reforms really come from the Great Leader?

And what do you say to that, Mr. Meinhardt?

It's strange, some of it, isn't it?

You have to know who is on which side...

Oh, just because, you know? Just out of interest.

That's the way the Great Leader intended it.

I wish it were different, too. But that's the way people are.